– Flight MH17 Conjures MH370, Exposing Western Deception, Leading To More Questions ” (21st Century Wire, July 19, 2014)
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Was MH17 Really MH370!? – Conspiracy Theory Or Conspiracy Fact!?
FYI.
– Was MH17 really MH370!? – Conspiracy Theory or Conspiracy Fact!? (ETA – Exüpose Them All, July 19, 2014):
Malaysian Planes MH17 Shot down over Ukraine by John McCain & Company
MH17 crash in Ukraine no coincidence, say MH370 relatives
Rebel Leader Says Many of the Dead Bodies in MH17 Weren’t “Fresh”
Is Malaysian Air MH17 the MH370 Twin From Israel?
False Flag Over Ukraine and Israel’s Ground Invasion of Gaza
Flight MH 17 Never Took Off???!!!
BOMBSHELL: Kiev Air Traffic Controller Says Ukrainian Military Shot Down MH17
Read moreWas MH17 Really MH370!? – Conspiracy Theory Or Conspiracy Fact!?
Ukrainian Su-25 Fighter Detected In Close Approach To MH-17 Before Crash
Aaaand we would also like to get an explanation for this …
– FINAL: Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing MH-17
– Why Did MH-17 Divert From Its Usual Flight Plan, Why Did It Fly Above Restricted Airspace?
– Ukraine’s Security Service Has Confiscated Air Traffic Control Recording
Meanwhile our elite puppet leaders are busy building a case against Russia and the mainstream media outlets (which are pretty much all under Illuminati control) are flooding us (as usual) with lies and propaganda …
– Flight 17: US Builds Case Against Rebels, Russia In Downing Of Jet In Ukraine (Washington Post)
Related info
– What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner? (Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, July 19, 2014):
Washington has lied for so long that it can’t do anything else.
Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash – Moscow
– Ukrainian Su-25 fighter detected in close approach to MH17 before crash – Moscow (RT, July 21, 2014):
The Russian military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. Kiev must explain why the military jet was tracking the passenger airplane, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
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“A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, it’s distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km,” said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russia’s military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.
LIVE: ‘Kiev claims no military aircraft operated over Donetsk on July 17th are false’ http://t.co/JTqVAqU5yE pic.twitter.com/DAh0Wsj8lX
— RT (@RT_com) July 21, 2014
“[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane,” he stated.
“The SU-25 fighter jet can gain an altitude of 10km, according to its specification,” he added. “It’s equipped with air-to-air R-60 missiles that can hit a target at a distance up to 12km, up to 5km for sure.”
The presence of the Ukrainian military jet can be confirmed by video shots made by the Rostov monitoring center, Kartopolov stated.
Read moreUkrainian Su-25 Fighter Detected In Close Approach To MH-17 Before Crash
Biggest Dutch Daily Calls For NATO Intervention To Protect MH-17; Feinstein Tells Putin To ‘Man Up And Confess’
From the article:
Dianne Feinstein:“I would say, ‘Putin, you have to man up. You should talk to the world. You should say, if this is a mistake, which I hope it was, say it.
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And we know that because a few hours ago, the biggest Dutch newspaper,Telegraaf, openly asked for military intervention by NATO to protect MH 17 and calls Putin a “KGB liar.”
As I’ve said before, the elitists have WW3 planned for us.
Related info:
– FINAL: Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing MH-17
– What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner? (Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, July 19, 2014):
Washington has lied for so long that it can’t do anything else.
– The Final Moments Of Flight MH-17: The Russian Side Of The Story
– Why Did MH-17 Divert From Its Usual Flight Plan, Why Did It Fly Above Restricted Airspace?
– Ukraine’s Security Service Has Confiscated Air Traffic Control Recordings With Malaysian Jet
– Biggest Dutch Daily Calls For NATO Intervention To Protect MH17; Feinstein Tells Putin To “Man Up And Confess” (ZeroHedge, July 20, 2014):
Shortly after we first reported about the MH-17 tragedy, we said that the key variable would be proving who the shooter was, as the grand fingerpointing theater was about to begin. We also noted that the actual answer to “who did it” was irrelevant, for the great propaganda machine had already made up its mind and was on overdrive. It promptly led to such ridiculous comments from non other than the Pentagon which said that, on one hand:
- ‘STRAINS CREDULITY’ SA-11 FIRED WITHOUT RUSSIAN AID: KIRBY
and yet:
- ‘WE JUST DON’T KNOW’ WHO FIRED SA-11 MISSILE AT PLANE: KIRBY
So, “we don’t know who did it” as long as Putin did it.
Flight 17: US Builds Case Against Rebels, Russia In Downing Of Jet In Ukraine (Washington Post)
Don’t miss:
– FINAL: Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing MH-17
Related info:
– What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner? (Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, July 19, 2014):
Washington has lied for so long that it can’t do anything else.
– The Final Moments Of Flight MH-17: The Russian Side Of The Story
– Why Did MH-17 Divert From Its Usual Flight Plan, Why Did It Fly Above Restricted Airspace?
– Ukraine’s Security Service Has Confiscated Air Traffic Control Recordings With Malaysian Jet
– Flight 17: US builds case against rebels, Russia in downing of jet in Ukraine (Washington Post, July 20, 2014):
The Obama administration expanded its case Sunday accusing Ukrainian separatists and Russian forces of working hand in hand to acquire and operate a missile battery believed to have shot down a Malaysia Airlines jetliner last week, killing nearly 300 people.
Citing an “enormous amount of evidence,” Secretary of State John F. Kerry accused Russia of providing SA-11 antiaircraft missiles to the pro-Russian rebels and training them on how to fire the advanced weapons. He also said U.S. intelligence agencies “saw the launch” of a missile from rebel-held territory in eastern Ukraine and recorded its trajectory at the moment the passenger plane vanished from radar.
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts: What Happened To The Malaysian Airliner?
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury during President Reagan’s first term. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal. He has held numerous academic appointments, including the William E. Simon Chair, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Georgetown University, and Senior Research Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University.
– What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner? (Paul Craig Roberts, July 19, 2014):
Washington’s propaganda machine is in such high gear that we are in danger of losing the facts that we do have.
One fact is that the separatists do not have the expensive Buk anti-aircraft missile system or the trained personnel to operate it.
Another fact is that the separatists have no incentive to shoot down an airliner and neither does Russia. Anyone can tell the difference between low-flying attack aircraft and an airliner at 33,000 feet.
Read moreDr. Paul Craig Roberts: What Happened To The Malaysian Airliner?
Recovery Of Malaysian Airlines Black Box Caught On Tape: Separatists To Hand Over To International Delegation
– Recovery Of Malaysian Airlines Black Box Caught On Tape: Separatists To Hand Over To International Delegation (ZeroHedge, July 20, 2014):
With the rabbit hole of conspiracies getting deeper by the hour, video has emerged showing what appears to be the “black box” flight data recorder from Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 being taken from the crash scene. As NBC reports, the men in the video are wearing Ukrainian Emergency Ministry uniforms, but a senior Ukrainian official told a news conference Sunday that rebels had taken the black boxes. This fits with reports from The Hill that pro-Russian separatists have located the black boxes for the downed Malaysia Airlines passenger jet and will hand them over to international authorities, according to separatist leader Alexander Borodai. With the US having offered more “proof” that Russia was involved, perhaps some facts from the Black Box will help clarify details in this dreadful situation… though we are not confident.
The Final Moments Of Flight MH-17: The Russian Side Of The Story
– The Final Moments Of Flight MH-17: The Russian Side Of The Story (ZeroHedge, July 18, 2014):
Yesterday, we laid out extensively what the official Ukrainian case was when it came to “proof” that Russian separatists had launched the Buk missile which allegedly took down flight MH-17; we also highlighted several glaring inconsistencies and questions that still remained open after the “incriminatory” YouTube clip release. So far, any international response has been muted to this hastily prepared evidence of Russian involvement, although the day is still young.
So what about the Russian side? Below we present the key arguments made by Russia to suggest that not it, but Ukraine, was responsible for taking down the Malaysian Boeing.
Read moreThe Final Moments Of Flight MH-17: The Russian Side Of The Story
Ukraine’s Security Service Has Confiscated Air Traffic Control Recordings With Malaysian Jet
– Ukraine’s Security Service Has Confiscated Air Traffic Control Recordings With Malaysian Jet (ZeroHedge, July 19, 2014):
Earlier, when we commented in the abnormality in the flight path of flight MH-17 we said that “perhaps before coming to “certain” conclusion about the involvement of this rebel or that, the key questions one should ask before casting blame, is why did the pilot divert from his usual flight plan, why did he fly above restricted airspace, and just what, if any instructions, did Kiev air control give the pilot in the minutes before the tragic explosion?”
The simple answer would have come if Ukraine had merely released the Air Traffic Control recording from the tower and flight MH 17, something Malaysia did in the aftermath of the disappearance of flight MH 370, which at last check has still not been uncovered.
It now appears that answer will not be forthcoming because as the BBC reports “Ukraine’s SBU security service has confiscated recordings of conversations between Ukrainian air traffic control officers and the crew of the doomed airliner, a source in Kiev has told Interfax news agency.”
What happens to the recordings next is completely unknown. What is known is that any hope of getting an undoctored explanation why the plane flew as it did, or what the pilots may have seen or said in the moments before the explosion, is forever gone.
U.S. Government Lied to Pretend that Accidental Russian Shootdown of Commercial Plane Was Intentional … Three Decades Ago
– U.S. Government Lied to Pretend that Accidental Russian Shootdown of Commercial Plane Was Intentional … Three Decades Ago (Washington’s Blog, July 19, 2014):
The U.S. Has Previously Carried Out a Major Disinformation Campaign to Malign Russia
We noted yesterday that Ukraine, Russia, the U.S., Israel and China have all accidentally shot down commercial airplanes.
Ray McGovern – a 27-year CIA veteran, who chaired National Intelligence Estimates and personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, their vice presidents, secretaries of state, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials – provides vital details on an accidental shootdown by Russia – and America’s disinformation campaign to make it look intentional – 3 decades ago:
Ukraine Possessed The Type Of Missile Which Shot Down Malaysian Airlines Flight MH-17
– Ukraine Possessed the Type of Missile Which Shot Down Malaysian Airlines Flight MH-17 (Washington’s Blog, July 18, 2014):
The American government and media are loudly proclaiming that it must have been the Russian loyalists within Ukraine who shot down the plane because they possessed the type of missile used in the attack: SA-11 missiles fired from a Buk missile system.
Of course, the Ukrainians possess them as well.
For example, here’s a Ukrainian state company BOASTING about their Buk systems and SA-11s … complete with pictures:
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Was Malaysian Airlines MH-17 ACCIDENTALLY Shot Down Over Ukraine?
– Was Malaysian Airlines MH-17 ACCIDENTALLY Shot Down Over Ukraine? (Washington’s Blog, July 18, 2014)
Was The Shootdown Of The Passenger Jet Over Ukraine A False Flag?
– Was the Shootdown of the Passenger Jet Over Ukraine a False Flag? (Washington’s Blog, July 17, 2014):
Who Benefits?
Everyone agrees that the sniper attack in Ukraine which started the regime change was a false flag attack.
Eric Zuesse claims false flags are continuing to this day in Ukraine:
Read moreWas The Shootdown Of The Passenger Jet Over Ukraine A False Flag?
Why Did MH-17 Divert From Its Usual Flight Plan, Why Did It Fly Above Restricted Airspace?
Personally, I do not think that this was an assassination attempt on Putin:
– Hot News Release: NWO Attempted Assassination of Vladimir Putin, But Got the Wrong Plane? It Looks That Way! (Breaking News Videos) (Before It’s News, July 17, 2014)
– Reports that Putin flew similar route as MH17, presidential airport says ‘hasn’t overflown Ukraine for long time’ (RT, July 17, 2014)
– Was Flight MH-17 Diverted Over Restricted Airspace? (ZeroHedge, July 18, 2014):
While there are various questions that have already emerged from what was supposed to be Ukraine’s “slam dunk” proof confirming Russian rebel involvement in today’s MH-17 tragedy, perhaps one just as gaping question emerges when one looks at what is clearly an outlier flight path in today’s final, and tragic, departure of the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777.
Perhaps the best visualization of what the issue is, comes from Vagelis Karmiros who has collated all the recent MH-17 flight paths as tracked by Flightaware and shows that while all ten most recent paths pass safely well south of the Donetsk region, and cross the zone above the Sea of Azov, it was only today’s tragic flight that passed straight overhead Donetsk.
Read moreWhy Did MH-17 Divert From Its Usual Flight Plan, Why Did It Fly Above Restricted Airspace?
Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 Shot Down Over Ukraine, … Had 280 Passengers On Board
Update:
– Here Is The Real-Time Flight Path Of The Shot Down Malaysian Airlines Flight MH 17
– Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 Reportedly Shot Down Over Ukraine (ZeroHedge, July 17, 2014):
Update: so yes, it was shot down according to flashing headlines.
- MALAYSIAN PASSENGER JET WAS SHOT DOWN AT 10 KM ALTITUDE: IFX
Read moreMalaysian Airlines Boeing 777 Shot Down Over Ukraine, … Had 280 Passengers On Board